{"id":77,"date":"2010-01-27T08:46:37","date_gmt":"2010-01-27T07:46:37","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogy.rvp.cz\/ireneus\/?p=77"},"modified":"2010-01-27T08:50:17","modified_gmt":"2010-01-27T07:50:17","slug":"otazky-k-francouzskemu-dejepisu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogy.rvp.cz\/ireneus\/2010\/01\/27\/otazky-k-francouzskemu-dejepisu\/","title":{"rendered":"Ot\u00e1zky k francouzsk\u00e9mu d\u011bjepisu"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Pro\u010d se mn\u011b l\u00edb\u00ed p\u0159\u00edstup, kter\u00fd n\u00e1m na francouzsk\u00fdch u\u010debnic\u00edch d\u011bjepisu ukazuje Zuzana Loubetova na str\u00e1nce http:\/\/dejepis1zemepis.blogy.rvp.cz\/2010\/01\/26\/jak-vypada-francouzska-ucebnice-dejepisu\/? Proto\u017ee kladou ot\u00e1zky, a to nikoli ot\u00e1zky zbyte\u010dn\u00e9, &#8222;kontroln\u00ed&#8220;, n\u00fdbr\u017e badatelsk\u00e9, zv\u00eddav\u00e9: nad obr\u00e1zkem interi\u00e9ru kostela se u\u010debnice pt\u00e1, &#8222;jak\u00fd dojem m\u00e1 vyvolat&#8220;. Nikoli tedy &#8222;kter\u00e9 vid\u00edme prvky slohu barokn\u00edho?&#8220;, ani &#8222;kter\u00e9 ritu\u00e1ln\u00ed p\u0159edm\u011bty jsou na obr\u00e1zku&#8220;, ani &#8222;ze kter\u00e9 doby poch\u00e1z\u00ed tato v\u00fdzdoba&#8220;. V tom je ten rozd\u00edl: <strong>ot\u00e1zka m\u00ed\u0159\u00ed a\u017e na to, kv\u016fli \u010demu bychom m\u011bli zn\u00e1t informace<\/strong>, je\u017e by sta\u010dily na odpov\u011b\u010f k t\u011bm ot\u00e1zk\u00e1m &#8222;\u010desk\u00e9ho typu&#8220;.<!--more--><br \/>\nCh\u00e1pu, \u017ee tak dlouh\u00e1 cesta v my\u0161len\u00ed (od vid\u011bn\u00e9ho obr\u00e1zku a\u017e k efekt\u016fm tehdej\u0161\u00ed v\u00fdzdoby na v\u011b\u0159\u00edc\u00edho) je pro mnoh\u00e9 \u017e\u00e1ky hodn\u011b n\u00e1ro\u010dn\u00e1. Leckdo si asi mysl\u00ed, \u017ee v\u011bt\u0161in\u011b d\u011bti by sta\u010dilo v\u011bd\u011bt, kter\u00e9 jsou ty rysy baroka. Jen\u017ee to z nich vyrostou dosp\u011bl\u00ed, kte\u0159\u00ed si pak mysl\u00ed, \u017ee to hlavn\u00ed je zn\u00e1t rysy baroka, ale \u017ee se nemus\u00ed ch\u00e1pt, pro\u010d to takov\u00e9 bylo. Taky nebudou v\u011bd\u011bt, jak si oni sami z\u00edsk\u00e1vaj\u00ed a reflektuj\u00ed (nebo nereflektuj\u00ed) sv\u00e9 dojmy. Znal\u00ed absolventi je\u0161t\u011b nejsou vzd\u011blan\u00ed v tom smyslu, \u017ee by d\u00edky znalostem rozum\u011bli sob\u011b a sv\u011btu l\u00edp ne\u017e nevzd\u011blan\u00ed.<br \/>\nJin\u00fd druh ot\u00e1zky:<br \/>\nJak\u00e9 jsou rozd\u00edly mezi&#8230; (katolicismem a protestantismem) &#8211;\u00a0 takov\u00e1 ot\u00e1zka se velmi li\u0161\u00ed od ot\u00e1zky &#8222;Kter\u00e9 jsou rysy protestantismu?&#8220; Proto\u017ee <strong>porovn\u00e1n\u00ed je matkou moudrosti<\/strong> (psal jsem o tom v Ireneu), ale <strong>v\u00fd\u010det je jen matkou a taky smrtkou pamatov\u00e1n\u00ed. <\/strong>Najd\u011bte shody a tak\u00e9 rozd\u00edly! U\u017e to, jak d\u011bti bav\u00edv\u00e1 kv\u00edz &#8222;najd\u011bte deset rozd\u00edl\u016f mezi obr\u00e1zky&#8220;, ukazuje, \u017ee hled\u00e1n\u00ed shod a rozd\u00edl\u016f je vrozen\u00e1 pot\u0159eba.<br \/>\n&#8222;Co Cranach vy\u010d\u00edt\u00e1 katolick\u00e9 c\u00edrkvi?&#8220; &#8211; to nen\u00ed jen ot\u00e1zka na v\u00fd\u010det n\u00e1mitek, aspo\u0148 douf\u00e1m: u\u010ditel asi chce, aby \u017e\u00e1k tu kritiku vlastn\u011b prov\u00e1d\u011bl s Cranachem. Ov\u0161em\u017ee by si \u017e\u00e1k m\u011bl zkusit tak\u00e9 tu opa\u010dnou: Pro\u010d \u0158\u00edm trv\u00e1 na sv\u00e9m a v \u010dem kritizuje protestanty? Kdybychom d\u011btem uk\u00e1zali jen to, \u017ee katol\u00edci protestanty v\u017edy rovnou zakuchali, nepochopily by d\u011bti n\u011bco d\u016fel\u017eit\u00e9ho o tom, jak udr\u017eov\u00e1n\u00ed tradice m\u016f\u017ee slou\u017eit i zl\u00e9 moci, a jak zase poru\u0161ov\u00e1n\u00ed tradice m\u016f\u017ee po\u0161kozovat i dobr\u00e9, a\u010d neuv\u011bdomovan\u00e9 principy p\u0159e\u017eit\u00ed&#8230;<br \/>\nOt\u00e1zky k pas\u00e1\u017ei o n\u00e1sil\u00ed v n\u00e1bo\u017eenstv\u00ed jsou je\u0161t\u011b jin\u00e9ho typu: Sice se vypt\u00e1vaj\u00ed na znalost n\u011bkter\u00e9ho \u00fadaje, jen\u017ee ty \u00fadaje jsou neudr\u017eiteln\u011b dynamick\u00e9: jsou to mal\u00e9ry, spory. Ikonoklasmus je v\u00e1lka, n\u00e1vrhy na ukon\u010den\u00ed st\u0159et\u016f jsou \u0159e\u0161en\u00edm probl\u00e9m\u016f, ud\u00e1losti Bartolom\u011bjsk\u00e9 noci jsou hr\u016fza a maj\u00ed nutkav\u011b se nab\u00edzej\u00edc\u00ed n\u00e1sledky.<\/p>\n<p>Takto kl\u00e1st ot\u00e1zky znamen\u00e1 je\u0161t\u011b jednu v\u011bc pro v\u00fduku p\u0159edm\u011btu: autor u\u010debnice a u\u010ditel s\u00e1m patrn\u011b hodn\u011b <strong>dob\u0159e ch\u00e1pou, co v\u00fdukou sleduj\u00ed, kam se d\u011bti maj\u00ed studiem dostat<\/strong>. Tedy nejenom \u017ee v\u011bd\u00ed, co je obsahem a u\u010divem p\u0159edm\u011btu, ale taky jak\u00fd m\u00e1 smysl. A zd\u00e1 se mi, \u017ee t\u00edm smyslem u historie je um\u011bt uva\u017eovat, d\u011blat si promy\u0161len\u00e9 z\u00e1v\u011bry, m\u00edt k ud\u00e1lostem sv\u00e9 historie osobn\u00ed zd\u016fvodn\u011bn\u00fd vztah. K takov\u00fdm c\u00edl\u016fm ov\u0161em nekr\u00e1\u010dej\u00ed d\u011bti v hodin\u011b, kter\u00e1 m\u00e1 za c\u00edl &#8222;protestantismus&#8220; a jej\u00ed\u017e u\u010ditel odpov\u00ed na ot\u00e1zku &#8222;co jako s t\u00edm protestantismem?&#8220; nap\u0159\u00edklad &#8222;maj\u00ed zn\u00e1t ty p\u0159edstavitele, kdy p\u016fsobili a co hl\u00e1sali&#8220;. Kdybychom si prohl\u00e9dli sv\u00e9 p\u0159\u00edpravy nebo tematick\u00e9 pl\u00e1ny (ve v\u011bt\u0161in\u011b p\u0159edm\u011bt\u016f), na\u0161li bychom spoustu tradi\u010dn\u011b usazen\u00fdch &#8222;c\u00edl\u016f&#8220;, u kter\u00fdch by n\u00e1m hodn\u011b dlouho trvalo, ne\u017e bychom zformulovali p\u0159ijatelnou odpov\u011b\u010f, kam se d\u011bti d\u00edky t\u00e9 hodin\u011b maj\u00ed dostat&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Nechci nikomu k\u0159ivdit, v\u00edm, \u017ee v\u011bt\u0161inu u\u010ditel\u016f ve v\u011bt\u0161in\u011b p\u0159edm\u011bt\u016f p\u0159ipravovala jejich fakulta pr\u00e1v\u011b ve smyslu &#8222;&#8220;maj\u00ed zn\u00e1t ty p\u0159edstavitele, kdy p\u016fsobili a co hl\u00e1sali&#8220;. Ono se to tak taky d\u0159\u00edv ch\u00e1palo, a my m\u00e1me sm\u016flu, ze se za \u010dty\u0159icet let komunismu a dvacet let svobody to ch\u00e1p\u00e1n\u00ed nejd\u0159\u00edv nesm\u011blo a pak neum\u011blo posunout o p\u00e1r krok\u016f d\u00e1l, podobn\u011b jako se posunula civilizovan\u00e1 Evropa. A\u017e tam zjist\u00ed, jak sv\u016fk pokrok zase o dal\u0161\u00ed kr\u016f\u010dek poopravit, my budeme teprve nakro\u010dovat.\u00a0 Dalo by se to dohnat &#8211; nap\u0159\u00edklad zkoum\u00e1n\u00edm informac\u00ed o tom, jak se ve Francii u\u010d\u00ed d\u011bjepis a p\u00ed\u0161ou u\u010debnice! Ale to by bylo t\u0159eba, aby si o tom ne\u010detla stovka lid\u00ed na blogy.rvp.cz, n\u00fdbr\u017e aby existovalo profesn\u00ed vzd\u011bl\u00e1v\u00e1n\u00ed spojen\u00e9 s profesn\u00edm rozvojem a s r\u016fstem platov\u00fdm&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Pro\u010d se mn\u011b l\u00edb\u00ed p\u0159\u00edstup, kter\u00fd n\u00e1m na francouzsk\u00fdch u\u010debnic\u00edch d\u011bjepisu ukazuje Zuzana Loubetova na str\u00e1nce http:\/\/dejepis1zemepis.blogy.rvp.cz\/2010\/01\/26\/jak-vypada-francouzska-ucebnice-dejepisu\/? Proto\u017ee kladou ot\u00e1zky, a to nikoli ot\u00e1zky zbyte\u010dn\u00e9, &#8222;kontroln\u00ed&#8220;, n\u00fdbr\u017e badatelsk\u00e9, zv\u00eddav\u00e9: nad obr\u00e1zkem interi\u00e9ru kostela se u\u010debnice pt\u00e1, &#8222;jak\u00fd dojem m\u00e1 vyvolat&#8220;. Nikoli tedy &#8222;kter\u00e9 vid\u00edme prvky slohu barokn\u00edho?&#8220;, ani &#8222;kter\u00e9 ritu\u00e1ln\u00ed p\u0159edm\u011bty jsou na obr\u00e1zku&#8220;, ani [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":73,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-77","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-nezarazene"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogy.rvp.cz\/ireneus\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/77","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogy.rvp.cz\/ireneus\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogy.rvp.cz\/ireneus\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogy.rvp.cz\/ireneus\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/73"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogy.rvp.cz\/ireneus\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=77"}],"version-history":[{"count":3,"href":"https:\/\/blogy.rvp.cz\/ireneus\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/77\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":81,"href":"https:\/\/blogy.rvp.cz\/ireneus\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/77\/revisions\/81"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blogy.rvp.cz\/ireneus\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=77"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogy.rvp.cz\/ireneus\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=77"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blogy.rvp.cz\/ireneus\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=77"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}